Bug 67481 - HDA Intel/AD1986A: regression with Linux 3.12, 3.13rc4 on Toshiba Satellite L40-10Q
Summary: HDA Intel/AD1986A: regression with Linux 3.12, 3.13rc4 on Toshiba Satellite L...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: Drivers
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Sound(ALSA) (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: P1 normal
Assignee: Jaroslav Kysela
URL:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2013-12-22 07:40 UTC by misieck
Modified: 2014-02-04 19:17 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

See Also:
Kernel Version: 3.13rc4
Subsystem:
Regression: No
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Attachments
alsa_info output from linux 3.13rc4 (23.19 KB, text/plain)
2013-12-22 07:40 UTC, misieck
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alsa_info output from linux 3.11 - last known working version (32.64 KB, text/plain)
2013-12-22 07:42 UTC, misieck
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alsa_info output from 3.13rc4 with fix1 - the jack-detect removal (23.12 KB, text/plain)
2013-12-22 14:26 UTC, misieck
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alsa_info output from linux 3.13.0 (22.48 KB, text/plain)
2014-01-26 17:12 UTC, misieck
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alsa_info output from linux 3.13.0 without headphones plugged (22.53 KB, text/plain)
2014-01-27 14:52 UTC, misieck
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alsa_info output from linux 3.13.0, no headphones, no mute, no sound (23.08 KB, text/plain)
2014-01-28 20:16 UTC, misieck
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alsa_info output from linux 3.13.0 - with modifications from hda_analyser to make the sound work again! (22.43 KB, text/plain)
2014-02-02 01:27 UTC, misieck
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output from jack_sense tool: plug in/ plug out (1.65 KB, text/plain)
2014-02-02 01:28 UTC, misieck
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diff from hda_analyser (2.49 KB, text/plain)
2014-02-02 01:29 UTC, misieck
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the script exported from hda_analyser to make the sound work again! (1.10 KB, text/plain)
2014-02-02 01:29 UTC, misieck
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Test fix patch (1.78 KB, patch)
2014-02-02 08:45 UTC, Takashi Iwai
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alsa_info output from linux 3.13.0 with fix2 modified (25.96 KB, text/plain)
2014-02-04 01:14 UTC, misieck
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Description misieck 2013-12-22 07:40:37 UTC
Created attachment 119241 [details]
alsa_info output from linux 3.13rc4

No sound from the speakers, headphones. 
Activating "automute" while playing (aplay) fades in sound on headphones (the sound fades in without volume levels changing in alsamxer; the fade in time is about 2 seconds). When automute is activated, after aplay stops playing, the volume alternates between muted/unmuted at about 2 times per second.
Killing pulseaudio doesn't change anything.

Last known working kernel is 3.11. With that version, alsamixer is showing a lot of externally non-existing outputs for surround, LFE etc, but the front speakers and the headphones work as intended.

The breakage appears first in 3.12 where I could locate commits such as fc39a7ea: 
"ALSA: hda - Drop static quirk for Toshiba Satellite L40-10Q
The BIOS provides good pin-configurations, so we can drop the static
quirk now."

For this reason I went to the lengths of updating the bios to the latest available for this machine from Toshiba's archives, which is V2.30 dated 2008-03-18, but it brought no improvement.

I've seen the bug 64971, so I tried linux 3.13rc4, which contains the fixes for it, but they don't help. They do change thigs a little compared to 3.12, but not much. Still no sound.
Comment 1 misieck 2013-12-22 07:42:18 UTC
Created attachment 119251 [details]
alsa_info output from linux 3.11 - last known working version
Comment 2 Takashi Iwai 2013-12-22 09:43:11 UTC
When the auto-muting is disabled, do the outputs from the headphone and the speaker work as expected?  And, can they be muted and adjusted individually via "Headphone" and "Speaker" mixer mute/volume?  If both are yes, the problem is likely the headphone jack detection and its auto-muting.

Also, with 3.11 kernel, did the machine mute the speaker output automatically when the headphone is plugged?  If so, we can simply disable the jack detection on this machine.

The BIOS pin already looks good in 3.11, so it's no issue of BIOS, but most likely just the unexpected behavior of the hardware.
Comment 3 misieck 2013-12-22 11:39:05 UTC
When auto-muting is disabled nothing works at all. Enabling it, makes the sound strangely "fade in" on the headphones. Nothing on the speakers.
Comment 4 misieck 2013-12-22 11:46:58 UTC
With 3.11, the speaker output does seem to be automatically muted when headphone is plugged, as the speakers stop playing but nothing is changed in alsamixer.
Comment 5 Takashi Iwai 2013-12-22 12:31:41 UTC
OK, then create a file containing the following as /lib/firmware/alsa/laptop:

[codec]
0x11d41986 0x1179ff40 0
[hint]
jack_detect = false


Then, pass patch=alsa/laptop option to snd-hda-intel module.  This will remove the unnecessary auto-mute feature, at least.  (It'll remove the auto-mic selection as well, but let's sort out the output problems at first.)

If the above still doesn't work, please give alsa-info.sh output at this state.

Thanks.
Comment 6 misieck 2013-12-22 14:23:26 UTC
It doesn't work. The auto-mute option is gone from alsamixer and there is no sound from the speakers or from the headphones.
Comment 7 misieck 2013-12-22 14:26:08 UTC
Created attachment 119261 [details]
alsa_info output from 3.13rc4 with fix1 - the jack-detect removal
Comment 8 misieck 2014-01-26 17:12:23 UTC
Created attachment 123401 [details]
alsa_info output from linux 3.13.0

Hi there,
On 3.13 the sound is still not coming from the speakers. The headphones do work if the automute is on (it still does the fading in at the beggining of playback).
Comment 9 Takashi Iwai 2014-01-27 08:39:59 UTC
Please give alsa-info.sh output while you're playing from the speaker.
The attached alsa-info looks at the state with the headphone plugged, thus PA muted the speaker.
Comment 10 misieck 2014-01-27 14:52:26 UTC
Created attachment 123591 [details]
alsa_info output from linux 3.13.0 without headphones plugged
Comment 11 Raymond 2014-01-27 23:01:51 UTC
speakers were still muted when headphone not plugged

use alsamixer -c0 to unmute speaker playback switch

Simple mixer control 'Speaker',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-46.50dB] [off]
  Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-46.50dB] [off]



Node 0x1b [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400185: Stereo Amp-Out
  Control: name="Speaker Playback Volume", index=0, device=0
    ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=Out, idx=0, ofs=0
  Control: name="Speaker Playback Switch", index=0, device=0
    ControlAmp: chs=3, dir=Out, idx=0, ofs=0
  Control: name="Speaker Phantom Jack", index=0, device=0
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x80 0x80]


https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound.git/commit/?id=ba579eb7b30791751f556ee01905636cda50c864

what is the exact meaning of

"Make this change so that manual corrections to module-init-tools file(s) are not required." ?
Comment 12 Raymond 2014-01-27 23:11:42 UTC
the amp out of node 3 was above 0dB on kernel 3.11

Node 0x03 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x44d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Device: name="AD198x Analog", type="Audio", device=0
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1f, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x1e 0x1e]
Comment 13 misieck 2014-01-28 20:16:19 UTC
Created attachment 123681 [details]
alsa_info output from linux 3.13.0, no headphones, no mute, no sound

No sound from speakers no matter what.
Comment 14 Takashi Iwai 2014-01-29 07:03:47 UTC
The Speaker mixer element is still muted in comment 13.

But, at the same time, "Headphone Jack" element reports true.  So, the driver believes the headphone being plugged.  If it's incorrect, it means that the jack detection is broken on your machine.

Then the question is why jack_detect = false didn't work.
Did you try without PulseAudio, such as
    aplay -Dplughw -vv foo.wav
??
Comment 15 Raymond 2014-01-29 07:55:19 UTC
seem suspend resume problem 

[  404.134452] PM: early resume of devices complete after 0.304 msecs
[  404.136902] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: irq 43 for MSI/MSI-X
[  404.137018] usb usb2: root hub lost power or was reset
--
[  542.591105] PM: early resume of devices complete after 0.304 msecs
[  542.593628] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: irq 43 for MSI/MSI-X
[  542.593947] usb usb2: root hub lost power or was reset
--
[37531.784080] PM: early resume of devices complete after 0.305 msecs
[37531.784735] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: irq 43 for MSI/MSI-X
[37531.785283] usb usb2: root hub lost power or was reset
Comment 16 misieck 2014-01-29 09:36:45 UTC
I always killed pulseaudio and played with aplay (with no options). So far playback with pulseudio is identical to the one from asound. 
Suspend is not yet in the question as I normally test after clean reboot (I start to the 3.13 kernel as I use 3.11.10 daily where the sound works).


$ aplay -Dplughw -vv  adele.wav 
Playing WAVE 'adele.wav' : Signed 32 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
Plug PCM: Route conversion PCM (sformat=S32_LE)
  Transformation table:
    0 <- 0
    1 <- 0
Its setup is:
  stream       : PLAYBACK
  access       : RW_INTERLEAVED
  format       : S32_LE
  subformat    : STD
  channels     : 1
  rate         : 22050
  exact rate   : 22050 (22050/1)
  msbits       : 32
  buffer_size  : 11024
  period_size  : 2756
  period_time  : 124988
  tstamp_mode  : NONE
  period_step  : 1
  avail_min    : 2756
  period_event : 0
  start_threshold  : 11024
  stop_threshold   : 11024
  silence_threshold: 0
  silence_size : 0
  boundary     : 1444937728
Slave: Hardware PCM card 0 'HDA Intel' device 0 subdevice 0
Its setup is:
  stream       : PLAYBACK
  access       : MMAP_INTERLEAVED
  format       : S32_LE
  subformat    : STD
  channels     : 2
  rate         : 22050
  exact rate   : 22050 (22050/1)
  msbits       : 32
  buffer_size  : 11024
  period_size  : 2756
  period_time  : 124988
  tstamp_mode  : NONE
  period_step  : 1
  avail_min    : 2756
  period_event : 0
  start_threshold  : 11024
  stop_threshold   : 11024
  silence_threshold: 0
  silence_size : 0
  boundary     : 1444937728
  appl_ptr     : 0
  hw_ptr       : 0
#### +                                             | 09%^C
Aborted by signal Interrupt...
Comment 17 misieck 2014-01-29 09:55:35 UTC
Takashi, as I mentioned eralier, the jack detection works fine in 3.11.10, so the hardware is fine.
You suspected the jack is hardware switched, not software switched and I noticed that in 3.11 it mutes speakers without changing sound levels, so it is likely hardware switched indeed.
Comment 18 Raymond 2014-01-29 15:32:31 UTC
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66621#c39

try hda_jack_sense_test.py which require hda-analyzer and python

pd should be 1 when headphone or Mic is plugged and 0 when unplugged

the previous 3stack model didn't enable unsolicited event
Comment 19 Takashi Iwai 2014-01-30 11:37:50 UTC
(In reply to misieck from comment #17)
> Takashi, as I mentioned eralier, the jack detection works fine in 3.11.10,
> so the hardware is fine.

Not really -- the hardware doesn't report the jack detection although it advertises it would do.  Instead, the hardware does switch the audio by itself and keep reporting the wrong jack state.  That's the problem.

> You suspected the jack is hardware switched, not software switched and I
> noticed that in 3.11 it mutes speakers without changing sound levels, so it
> is likely hardware switched indeed.

In that case, we need to tell the driver to ignore the jack detection.  That's the hint string does basically.

So, the remaining question is why it still doesn't work well even with the hint string.  Could you double-check with the patching mentioned in comment 5 with the latest driver, and see whether the raw ALSA aplay still has the same problem?
At testing, make sure that the speaker is properly muted.  In doubt, run like:

   amixer -c0 set Speaker 0dB unmute

If the problem persists, please upload the alsa-info.sh output again.  This is the only trace we can see remotely.  Thanks.
Comment 20 misieck 2014-02-02 01:25:54 UTC
Good news everyone!
I was playing around with the hda_analyser (great tool) and encouraged by https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1109929 I located EAPD in my configuration to enable it (node 0x1b - Speaker Playback Volume) - voila, the sound started to flow from the speakers.
I also had to unmute the outputs in pin 0x1a - Headphone Playback Volume. For some reason it was muted.
Node 0x13 - Mic Playback Volume is also interesting (it is muted and does not change through alsamixer). I would really like for it to work properly trough alsamixer.

After changing the two mentioned nodes, speakers work, on headphone insertion, the speakers stop and the headphones work - just as it should be. 
Changing volume on the speakers in alsamixer works well.
Changing volume on the headphone output causes it to be muted until I change it in hda_analyser again (the same goes for the mic playback). 

Testing with hda_jack_sense_test.py showed that the jack insertion is indeed detected correctly.

Attached are:
-alsa_info for a configuration where sound works on speakers and headphones.
-output from hda_jack_sense_test.py
-a diff from hda_analyser
-an export from hda_analyser
Comment 21 misieck 2014-02-02 01:27:05 UTC
Created attachment 124151 [details]
alsa_info output from linux 3.13.0 - with modifications from hda_analyser to make the sound work again!
Comment 22 misieck 2014-02-02 01:28:26 UTC
Created attachment 124161 [details]
output from jack_sense tool: plug in/ plug out
Comment 23 misieck 2014-02-02 01:29:13 UTC
Created attachment 124171 [details]
diff from hda_analyser
Comment 24 misieck 2014-02-02 01:29:56 UTC
Created attachment 124181 [details]
the script exported from hda_analyser to make the sound work again!
Comment 25 Takashi Iwai 2014-02-02 08:45:17 UTC
A good hunt!  So, EAPD plays the key role here?  Interesting that this didn't show up in the diff with the previous alsa-info.sh outputs.

In anyway, below is a test fix patch.  It adds:
 - disablement of the software jack detection
 - keep EAPD bit on on NID 0x1b

Please give it a try.
Comment 26 Takashi Iwai 2014-02-02 08:45:49 UTC
Created attachment 124191 [details]
Test fix patch
Comment 27 misieck 2014-02-04 01:11:42 UTC
Ok, so that patch makes things much more pallateble. The sound comes out of the speakers when it should and from the headphones when it should.
A few issues: why
 codec->no_jack_detect = 1;
Testing with hda_jack_sense_test.py showed that the jack is detected correctly (see a previous attachment) and it is confirmed by pulse audio correctly detecting the correct output as well.

There is also a peculiarity that I could notice while running with pulseaudio: Amongst the audio devices I can select are "Analog Output" and either "Headphones" or "Speakers" (or both if the patch from comment 5 is applied, which I think shouldn't be), depending on what is plugged. Pulseaudio will switch between using the headphones or the speakers device, applying volume levels remembered for the given output, but always muting the opposing source (when "speakers" is selected, "headphones" get muted). 
So all that is great I guess, but what's up with the "analog output" device? Its not very useful.
Comment 28 misieck 2014-02-04 01:14:29 UTC
Created attachment 124351 [details]
alsa_info output from linux 3.13.0 with fix2 modified

This is with your patch modified to remove the line about no_jack_detect.
I also did not apply the fix from comment 5.
All seems fine.
Comment 29 Takashi Iwai 2014-02-04 06:33:39 UTC
OK, if the software jack detection works as expected, that's even better.

I added the disablement just because of your information that the machine worked without it in the earlier driver code, and it reported wrongly in comment 13.
But this might be all due to the EAPD.

I'm going to add the patch without the jack detection disablement line to the upstream code.
Comment 30 misieck 2014-02-04 19:17:41 UTC
Either way, it works nice now. Recording too. So unless you think it's worth doing anything about that redundant "analog output" that shows up in pulseaudio, I consider this bug is fixed. Thank you very much.

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