Bug 52721

Sorry -- this is not a man-pages bug

Agree, but there is only one component in 'documentation' product. Could you please be less bureaucratic and tell the proper way to submit such kind of problems. I added Rob Landley into CC (he's mentioned as maintainer of /doc/), so I think he'll handle this.

Konstantin,

Sorry, my intention is not to be bureaucratic. But, I just don't have the time to triage bugs in other areas, and in this case, I do not know where you should submit the problem. Therefore, my response was to close the bug. I'll leave it alone for now, and see if Rob can help. But, failing that, I'm likely to close it again sometime in the future if it sits around for a long time assigned to me.

Best,

Michael

On 01/15/2013 02:20:50 AM, bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org wrote:
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52721
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> Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com> changed:
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>            What    |Removed                     |Added
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>              Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
>                  CC|                             
> |mtk.manpages@gmail.com
>          Resolution|                            |INVALID
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> --- Comment #1 from Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>   
> 2013-01-15 08:20:50 ---
> Sorry -- this is not a man-pages bug

The updated stuff has always been on http://landley.net/kdocs but the  
kernel.org guys went completely paranoid after the breakin and won't  
re-enable my account without a lot of bureaucratic hoops involving key  
signing.

   http://landley.net/notes-2012.html#26-09-2012

Rob

This is sad. I think the best solution is to move this page to wiki.kernel.org and put links to external/uptodate resources.

On 01/15/2013 07:25:45 AM, bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org wrote:
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52721
> 
> --- Comment #5 from Konstantin Khlebnikov <khlebnikov@openvz.org>   
> 2013-01-15 13:25:45 ---
> This is sad. I think the best solution is to move this page to  
> wiki.kernel.org
> and put links to external/uptodate resources.

Anyone who wants to do this has been free to do so for about 10 years  
now. Personally I'll never touch such a wiki: they're a decent way of  
piling together a random slush pile of unconnected tidbits, and a  
horrible way of organizing anything.

The mad hatter's advice ("start at the beginning, and when you get to  
the end stop") simply doesn't apply to wikis. Wikis provide no help  
keeping data complete, up to date, and nonduplicative. They're a nice  
communal scratch pad for brainstorming, but the best way to find  
anything in one is google.

Rob

On 11/19/2013 08:02:46 AM, bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org wrote:
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52721
> 
> Alan <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> changed:
...

I posted the following to the kernel-users list back in September, but  
never got a reply:

On 09/24/2013 10:05:26 AM, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> Hi, all:
> 
> We already use 2-factor authentication for all admin-level access to
> infrastructure, so I wanted to ask whether it's something you would  
> like
> to see extended to non-admin access, such as for git repositories.

No, but could I raise the possibility of getting a dedicated ssh key  
with a forced rsync receive command line for a specific directory, ala  
page 61 of the slides from this?

http://x47industries.com/presentations/ssh-tips-tricks.html

I'd really, really, really like to be able to update  
http://kernel.org/doc again, and writing a wrapper around kup to  
reimplement a really sad version of rsync has been a combination of  
"painful" and "busy work" that's kept off the first page of my todo  
list for 6 months now...

Rob

Still not a man pages bug.